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Post by Legionnaire on Aug 13, 2008 19:16:37 GMT
Picking up on the many suggestions from the more seasoned players among us, I think these following rules could work out both well and fun for all participants:
- Everyone plays two scenarios that counts in the campaign, and after each set of two scenarios we play the Chapter, the specific Campaign scenario. Suggested starter scenario is High Noon and I'd like another one as well. That way everyone gets the opportunity to gain some experience before each Chapter highlight.
- The ones with the most wins will have a slight edge at the start of each Chapter, if two or more are tied, they all benefit.
- As we're apparently going to be around or more than 5 players, no hindrance from my side to provide an accomplice in the first Chapter. That way we can allott up to 8 players!
As for the sides to take, and the specific roles in the campaign, I have a few suggestions, with risk of repeating myself.
- Cowboys motivation, how about all your lifesavings gone? Could upset anyone.
- Lawmens motivation, as stated previously someone might play hired Pinkertons. Texas Rangers might have a bit of big breeches and might be after the Mexicans. Some might be Bountyhunters.
- Outlaws motivation, getting filthy rich! As with Lawmen they might also be Bountyhunters (ever heard of it takes a thief to catch a thief?)
At the end of the day, it doesn't have to be complicated, but I personally like to add a bit of flavour to the setting.
Are these terms we can agree on everyone? I think it should be interesting to see where it'll all will take us eventually.
PS. Haven't still heard anything from Black Scorpion, hopefully they arrive on Saturday at the latest...
The Swede.
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Post by joeoe18 on Aug 13, 2008 21:11:18 GMT
Dave: We don't have any Cowboys currently so it might be good to add some to the mix.
Ove: Do you mean that there are two scenarios in total in each chapter or that we all play two each inbetween each chapter? I think it would be nice if we could all play each other 1v1 at least once in each chapter, but I don't know if that would be too many games.
It might be good if we could select from a limited set of scenarios for each chapter, rather than just one. Perhaps High Noon, Jailbreak and The Hanging one (whatever that's called) could be used for the first chapter, as they can all be slightly modified to be involved with gaining information about the location of the informant. Everyone just playing High Noon might get a bit samey.
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Post by Legionnaire on Aug 13, 2008 22:10:45 GMT
My idea was to play two scenarios each before the Chapter. If we play 1v1 we're going to play about four scenarios each before the Chapter, which means more practise and more experience. But I'm easy, as long as everybody agree about how many scenarios we actually play in between.
The thought to have a few scenarios to choose from is sound, gets a bit boring to play the same thing over and over again.
The Swede.
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Post by joeoe18 on Aug 13, 2008 23:04:25 GMT
I'd be in favour of playing a number of 1v1 game followed by a bigger chapter ending game. What do other people think.
Also how many games in between each chapter?
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Post by Stephen Mawson on Aug 14, 2008 9:17:05 GMT
I was kind of assuming that we'd be looking at a couple per player, purely on the grounds that a number of us have other commitments at the club that are going to prevent us from playing Legends of the Old West more than once or perhaps twice a month.
I've got the Warhammer League, plus a Flames of War League, as well as the monthly Runequest game to fit in, and I'm also keen to continue playing a board game of some sort at least once a month.
A couple of games, plus a big game on a Sunday ought to be plenty, especially if we're looking at at least four or five chapters of story. That's going to take us pretty much right up to Christmas. We can then look at doing another storyline, either with the same posse's, or starting new ones if people want to change things around a bit.
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Post by joeoe18 on Aug 14, 2008 10:04:43 GMT
Yes I think that's probably best, so if we say we play 2 games each per chapter then it shouldn't take too long to get it all done - especially as the games are quite short.
We need to formulate some sort of system for working out who plays who - although it might make more sense for the Lawmen to start of playing the Outlaws. The Cowboys can probably play whoever.
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Post by Stephen Mawson on Aug 14, 2008 10:13:46 GMT
I personally wouldn't worry to much about that. Who plays who in the 1 vs 1 games is probably going to be more down to who happens to be available to play games during any particular month.
The only game that doesn't quite fit into the basic story is Lawmen vs Lawmen, and you can get around that by having them come from different regions, so not so inclined to trust each other much.
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Post by John on Aug 14, 2008 11:10:22 GMT
It shouldn't really matter how many games exactly people play, in later chapters you can always 'balance' the more experienced gangs by giving opponents benefits. I doubt even the most active among us would end up playing more than 4 games in total in any month. Often the problem with saying players will play x games per month is that as Steve says not everyone is going to be free on the same days, and what happens when say myself and Steve are free one Monday but we can't play because Steves already played his two for the month (but if I don't play Steve I won't have played two games this month...)
The only thing I might suggest is that if we are using the All Day Sundays as Chapter finales then perhaps set 12:00 to 14:00 on the Sunday as the time for this (or some other time band). That way players know to be free for the one fixed event. As a lot of you also Board Game / Roleplay together it might also be worth making the last Monday of the month the prefered day for games. This wouldn't mean that no one could play on other dates, but it would make it easier for gamers who take part in other things to sort out games.
If you are setting a time for the fixed Chapter finales on the all day Sunday then if it is possible I would prefer it was either at the beginning or end of the day. For Wargamers (myself included) the Sunday is a chance to play games that don't fit into an evening, if the Chapter finale is from during the middle of the Sunday each month we would have the option of not playing in it (which would be a shame) or not playing any big Wargames for 4+ months.
As we have the venue from 12:00 to 22:00 I would hope we could agree to either 12:00-14:00 (probably better) or 18:00+ as this would still leave a 6+ hour period for other things. - - -
Lawmen vs Lawmen is one of those silly things that although it'd be nice to avoid probably can't be without more players. I'm happy enough coming up with a 'good enough' reason for it when it happens.
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Post by Stephen Mawson on Aug 14, 2008 11:59:40 GMT
I would probably prefer early on a Sunday, rather than later as my attendance on Sunday's tends to be 12:00 to 18:00 ish.
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Post by joeoe18 on Aug 14, 2008 13:27:55 GMT
Whenever on a Sunday is good for me, so early is fine.
John you're most likely right about the set number of games. So we'll say that we should aim for about 2 games per chapter (month?) each but if slightly less or more then things can be balanced later? Having a set Monday to play the games in is a nice idea but I don't know that we'll be able to fit everyone in at once - what with space and scenery.
Maybe (for the RP guys) we could have the first day of the month for RQ as it is now, then maybe the second for Board Games, then the third for LoTOW and the fourth for more LoTOW if needed, or Board Games if not (or perhaps an amalgam of the two). Not sure if it'll work but it's a suggestion.
Is it decided that the "theme" for the first set of games will be searching for information that will lead to the location of the guy who knows where the treasure is buried? With an advantage gained for all games won - perhaps starting closer to the location or something like that?
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Post by John on Aug 14, 2008 13:53:13 GMT
Joe: Sorry if my earlier post was unclear, I don't mean for the Monday to be the only day to play, simply that by having one Monday declared 'preferential' people are more likely to keep it free or organise games for it. (I for example had my Warhammer game next Monday game planned last Monday, if I know that the Boardgamers/RPers etc are likely to be free on a certain Monday it'd make it easier to plan games/not plan other things to get in the way). Also as LotOW games seem to be quite quick, it would be a bonus for people involved in other Wargaming tournaments (such as myself) if I can organise two games on the same night (as generally I will either have the entire night free to play LotOW or have the whole night booked for something else).
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Post by joeoe18 on Aug 14, 2008 13:56:16 GMT
Ah ok, well that sort of ties in well with my suggestion then. If we have one night set as the preffered night for LoTOW games and then we slot the rest in whenever there's a chance I think that might be best. Although if we want to set a specific night for boardgames as well - just to keep things simple - then that might also be an idea.
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Post by Legionnaire on Aug 15, 2008 12:46:00 GMT
I'm pretty much in favour of having a LOTOW-game (Chapter?) early on a Long Sunday, as I have other commitments later on that day. And it would be nice to get in two games each prior to the Chapter each month, but as stated, if not possible there's methods to cancel out someones huge edge.
Another reason for this is, as Stephen pointed out, we do play other games. I'm involved in Mikes RQ first Monday of every month and I also play boardgames on other occassions.
In the meantime though, I've outlined the setting for the campaign and written the specs for the first Chapter and the scenarios leading up to it. The campaign, in true spaghetti-western spirit, is named "The Quick, the Rich and the Dead". I hope everyone's going to enjoy it. The first Chapter is called "Where is Walter and a guy called Al?".
The Swede.
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Post by joeoe18 on Aug 15, 2008 13:43:39 GMT
Sounds great, looking forward to Sunday Also have you models arrived yet Ove?
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Post by Stephen Mawson on Aug 15, 2008 13:45:56 GMT
If we've got enough time on Sunday are we looking to play both some 1 on 1 games and then the chapter finale, or just play a bunch of 1 on 1 games to ease us into the campaign with the first finale coming in September.
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