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Post by Mark Wightman on Sept 30, 2008 14:36:31 GMT
Rather than thread-jack the BLB thread I've set this one up to discuss the planned Might & Reason game planned for the 19th.
I'll move the other post here - if I can work out how to do it.
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Post by Mark Wightman on Sept 30, 2008 14:46:20 GMT
Unable to move the post from the BLB thread, so I'll repeat it here.
Terry, Steve, Graham and I were talking about giving M&R a try at the October Sunday meet.
We just thought we'd give one of the two scenarios in the book a go - using our 28mm stuff and some movement trays and some fiddling.
Not sure which scenario though. The choice is:
Warburg (1760)
French: Army command, plus 4 sub-commanders
9 infantry (inc 2 Swiss) 3 Cavalry 1 Skirmisher
Anglo-Allied: Army command, plus 3 sub-commanders
6 Infantry 4 Cavalry
or . . .
Zorndorf (1758)
Russian: Army Command, plus 5 sub-commanders
15 Infantry 5 Heavy Arty 9 Cavalry (inc 3 Cossacks)
Prussian: Army Command, plus 6 sub-commanders
10 Infantry 5 Heavy Arty 8 Cavalry
Our plan was to use 2 of our 12 man AoR units for each Infantry regiment - each unit of 12 representing a single M&R stand (deployed 2x2).
For the Cav - we'd use 8 figures (4 stands) - two AoR stands representing each M&R stand.
Warburg only needs a 6 x 4, and Zorndorf a 7 x 5 table, but then Zorndorf was a really big battle fought in a very confined space.
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Post by Matt on Sept 30, 2008 15:14:55 GMT
That could fit in nicely as the chap who fancied a game is due to be up that weekend.
Although he's only got 15mm.
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Post by Mark Wightman on Sept 30, 2008 15:59:32 GMT
We'll be using 28mm. I've a 15mm Austrian army, but the guy who had the Prussian opposition moved away
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Post by terrywarden on Oct 1, 2008 12:02:36 GMT
Hi Mark; Do the numbers relate to stands or units required; are different unit types identified; i.e Grenadiers; Heavy and light Cavalry. Do we need bases for the commanders; and I think you said the guns use the same size bases.
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Post by Mark Wightman on Oct 1, 2008 14:05:46 GMT
Hi Mark; Do the numbers relate to stands or units required; are different unit types identified; i.e Grenadiers; Heavy and light Cavalry. Do we need bases for the commanders; and I think you said the guns use the same size bases. The numbers given earlier are M&R units, so each Infantry unit will need to 2 of our AoR ones. Guns will need to be 2 of ours for each of theirs to be the right size. We will need stands to represent the leaders, single figs will do. The breakdown by unit types is as follows: For Warburg French: 9 Infantry 1 Skirmish 2 Cuirassier 1 Dragoon Anglo-Allied: 2 Grenadiers 3 Infantry 1 Guard Infantry 4 Dragoons 1 Guard Dragoon Zorndorf Russian: 4 Grenadier 11 Musketeer 3 Cuirassier 3 Hussar 3 Cosacks 5 Heavy Guns Prussian: 3 Greandier 7 Musketeer/Fusilier 3 Cuirassier 3 Dragoons 2 Hussar 5 Heavy Guns I've more than enough Frenchie stuff to do Warburg. I'd have to use British units for all of the Anglo-Allied though, so some Prussians to be the Brunswickers and Hessians would be useful. Do we have enough Prussians and Russians for Zorndorf? For the Prussians that's the equivalent of 20 AoR units (14 Inf / 6 Grenadier), and for the Russians even more at 30 AoR infantry units (22 Inf / 8 Grenadier).
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Post by terrywarden on Oct 1, 2008 14:53:24 GMT
Hi Mark; I was just trying to work out how many temp bases we may require. I could nearly do he Prussians for Zorndorf, a few grenadiers short but Martyn has Prussians as well so we could make up any short fall; Swedes could also be used. The Russians I suspect that Graham could nearly field them himself; but he could be short of cavalry; but Dave could Help. I can do the Prssian Cavalry; Guns could be an issue if we need two per base; but I suppose that the calibres will not really matter as they are all class as heavy; again I suspect Graham could supply Guns himself.
The question is would this be two big for a first attempt; but on the other hand it could be a good test of the rules.
I think w ehave enough interested players to give it a go; do we know how many people have a set? prehaps you could pick me up a set at the weekend if you see them.
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Post by Mark Wightman on Oct 1, 2008 16:28:26 GMT
I think we have enough interested players to give it a go; do we know how many people have a set? perhaps you could pick me up a set at the weekend if you see them. I'll get you a set if I see them. Can't remember where I got mine from. Caliver, I think. They weren't cheap £20+
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Post by sapper on Oct 1, 2008 22:35:49 GMT
I have the following Prussians (in AoR units)
3 x musketeer 4 x fusilier 1 x grenadier 1 x jager 1 x currassier 1 x dragoon 1 x hussar 4 x medium guns (inc, 1 howitzer) 1 x heavy gun (24 lber) 4 x brigade leader models 1 x C-in-C group
Martyn
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Post by Mark Wightman on Oct 2, 2008 10:13:59 GMT
Here's the M&R designers website: www.sammustafa.com/mrintro.htmlThere's free downloads of lots of scenarios, "Sun King", "Spanish Succession" and "Ottoman Wars" amendments - lots of stuff. Basing system described here www.sammustafa.com/18cenbasing.html Reading the Sun King and WSS stuff has given me an inclination towards doing so Marlborough stuff - maybe in 6mm (Baccus) or 10mm (Pendraken). Can I tempt anybody else? ;D
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Post by terrywarden on Oct 2, 2008 10:57:09 GMT
Hi Mark As you know I have wanted an excuse to start this period for a while so I would be happy to join you in going for the 6 or 10mm option. You will have to see what deals are around on Sunday. Terry
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Post by sapper on Oct 2, 2008 11:12:53 GMT
I could be tempted to a modest investment.
Martyn
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Post by terrywarden on Oct 2, 2008 11:50:33 GMT
Ive just had a look around the Baccas site; the period seems to be fairly well suppoted and appears to be a reasonable cost for the Army packs; they seem to do suitable bases as well. I cant currently access the Pendraken site so I will try later; I did find a figure review site; and they do look ok; need to check the costs against the 6mm and I suppose 15mm.
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Post by Mark Wightman on Oct 2, 2008 12:22:19 GMT
Pendraken work are about £3 per pack. Which would be 30 Foot, 15 Cav, not sure how many Guns. The Pendraken site isn't the best for examples. There's some for the AWI range, which look fantastic. However, this range was recently redone. Not sure about the Malburian range, but I think the WSS stuff is new too. I plan to take a look at them in the "flesh" on Sunday. Must remember to take my specs
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Post by sapper on Oct 2, 2008 12:44:42 GMT
Mark
Have you got a feel for size of forces required, and what period/nationalities you might want to go for ?
It would obviously be helpful if different people got appropriate enemies, but also, if there is enough interest, allied contingents as well. Eg. If there are 4 people interested they could get Dutch & British and French & Bavarian or similar.
Pendraken are 2 guns for £3.
The attraction of 6mm is that Baccus do boxed army sets at about £24.50. Not sure what it would cost for a similar level of lead from Pendraken.
Martyn
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