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Post by Mark Wightman on May 28, 2008 8:30:39 GMT
I picked up a copy of the above rules at Partizan last weekend, and I've got to say I am impressed. There's a few points which aren't explained in great detail in the rules, so Richard will have a field day, but I think they are worth a try.
The period covered is 1660-1721.
Which means none of my armies are really suitable (a bad sign if you're my bank manager), although I could use my 7YW Frenchies, as they didn't change much and chucked their Pikes away quicker than most.
The rules cover Graham's much loved GNW, so perhaps we could give them a try out with his armies one all day Sunday.
Battalions/Regiments are organised in 18's (3 x 6 figure stands), with Pike armed troops having an additional stand of Pike (just for show). GNW Swedes are different (aren't they always) and have 2 x 6 figures of Musket, and 1 x 6 of Pike. We could cope with this by merging two of our 12 man units, but deploy them with only one command stand.
Cavalry is deployed in squadrons of 6 - so no problem there.
I know a new period is always a potential risk, but does anybody fancy giving it a go?
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Post by sapper on May 28, 2008 11:32:14 GMT
Mark
In principle well up for having a go. Terry, Graham and I were chatting on Monday and are looking to organize a SYW game for the June all-day Sunday. I intend to have a combat debut for my Prussians. Fancy joining in, and putting Lily Banners off to July ?
Martyn
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Post by Mark Wightman on May 28, 2008 12:22:16 GMT
Martyn wrote: >Fancy joining in, and putting Lily Banners off to July ?
In a word, no.
I've not enjoyed the last three or four games we've played using AoR, so count me out.
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Post by daveb on May 28, 2008 17:39:35 GMT
I'd be prepared to dabble in a small way.
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Post by daveb on May 28, 2008 17:40:39 GMT
I'd be prepared to dabble in a small way.
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Post by terrywarden on May 28, 2008 21:52:28 GMT
If we can sort out some armies I would cetainly like to give them ago. I have been looking for an excuse to fight with Marlborough not sure that I could face painting two new 28mm armies; would they work well for other scales? Graham has his GNW but based for AoR with the pikes based as they recommend. Terry
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Post by Mark Wightman on May 29, 2008 8:32:54 GMT
I know that feeling. The prospect of painting 200+ 28mm figures in detailed uniforms doesn't appeal much, but they do look better than 15mm figures on the table. Not that 15mm can't look the business, just check out this thread on the League of Augsburg site. www.leagueofaugsburg.com/fightingtalk/viewtopic.php?t=1380All the minis are Essex, who a very generic range of figures for the period. 25p / casting. I'm still tempted by the 25's though - but for that it means Foundry.
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Post by sapper on May 29, 2008 11:31:47 GMT
Mark
So, are you talking about whle new armies, then, rather than as an alternative use for existing 18th century armies people have got ? If so, then I could be persuaded to get involved, especially if we went for 15mm. Love 28mm, but they are so expensive ! Have you got any specific period covered by the rules in mind ? Spanish Succession ? Great Northern War ? Something else ?
Martyn
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Post by terrywarden on May 29, 2008 12:09:03 GMT
Hi Mark Thanks for the link yes very nice 15mm's but 25-28mm would look better but the cost of 18 figure units could be off putting. Dont forget there are also the very nice Front Rank range and Old Glory are not to bad. I wouldn't recommned the Reiver figures that Graham has been buying; mind you I havent painted any of them yet. How do the rules deal with a mob army like your Highlanders? Terry
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Post by sapper on May 29, 2008 12:25:15 GMT
And Dixon Miniatures have both scales.
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Post by Mark Wightman on May 29, 2008 13:26:08 GMT
Martyn: was thinking mostly about the Grand Alliance: League of Augsburg stuff. Or perhaps Battle of the Boyne campaign armies. The GNW isn't a favorite of mine. Anyway, Graham has it just about covered 1:1 scale Still wobbling regarding 15mm/28mm. Using 15's would be cheaper, but the rules seem more designed for 28's. Plus, if we go for 28's then we'll probably have some 7YW stuff we can use for both. Terry: Mobs are pretty much rubbish in BLB. Good at hand-to-hand, bad at shooting, some only get one shot. My Highlanders could be used, I guess, just have to watch out for the stands with Government deserters Then there's the Turks and Poles. Can we say "Siege of Vienna"? Should get Graham's attention. Hmm . . . just remembered I have two Gush based 15mm armies: Poles and Turks I could use.
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Post by daveb on May 29, 2008 13:55:34 GMT
Musketeer Miniatures make Swedes and Russians and there is a firm called Reiver Castings who appear to have quite a comprehensive range, including less commen nations, Norwegians for example. Much more appealing to me. On the subject of scale I think the only way for 15mm is to fill the 25mm bases with figures and use 25mm ranges and move distances.
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Post by Mark Wightman on May 29, 2008 14:31:40 GMT
I'm not so impressed by Reiver Castings. Figures look rough and unfinished to my eye. Aren't they something to do with Old Glory?
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Post by graham on May 29, 2008 15:56:20 GMT
I would be happy to try these. Always looking for an excuse to put my put Swedes into the field. I am already down to do AoR on June all dayer. I have a few 28mm Russians Swedes Poles and Turks that might work. The Russian pikes are in the Terry painting service queue. Reiver are poor castings but do things no one else does. I would only recommend these to fill out holes in your armies. I still like front rank and they have some Spanish succession figs that may work. www.frontrank.com/3_5_lev3_Spanish_Succession.asp Foundry figures of this period are old and although nice quite small more your 26mm than 29mm 28mm figures! Dixon do some too I have some that I have started (OK undercoat) to paint as Austrian (siege of Vienna chaps). dixonminiatures.co.uk/dixoncatalogue.asp?maintype=28dixonminiatures.co.uk/dixoncatalogue.asp?maintype=11Graham
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Post by sapper on May 29, 2008 20:13:50 GMT
Mark et al,
since my last post I've been drooling over the Front Rank Spanish Succession figures. 28mm are much more aesthetically pleasing, you're right. Oh well, I still have a kidney I could sell, count me in !
Martyn
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