KELMARSH 09

[dave3]

I was talking to Carl, from Phoenix today, about KELMARSH next year. Do we fancy puting on a game? I suggeated Kadesh, as I have lots of Egyptians, and should sort out Hitites by then, may be the addition of a nice citadel from Front Rank, to represent Kadesh? thoughts?
we may put on a couple of games if there is room. the tent was certainly spacious this year.
Dave

[Mark Wightman]

Kelmarsh - Yes

Kadesh - bah, no interest in them.

[mike]

What, no interest in Kadesh

It's one of the most important battles in history
It defined, once and for all, the northern extent of the Egyptian Empire and led to the first international peace treaty ever recorded

As for the sheer spectacle of the thing
Thousands of chariots pounding each other to a bloody standstill across the deserts of Syria - we're well into Cecil B DeMille territory here

And for gaming potential - I refer to my previous comment regarding the spectacle of it all

What's not to like ;D ;D

Now then - Dave's got Egytians, so I wonder where I can pick up some Hittite chariots

[Stephen Mawson]

There was loads of space in the marque we were given this year.

Assuming we get the same against next year, there certainly ought be easily enough room to accomodate 5 8' by 6' tables, possibly 6 of them.

[terrywarden]

I like the idea of being able to put on a game or two at KELMARSH 09; I do not have an interest in Kadesh thought; wont it come down to who's chariots get to charge first? I wonder as it is a re-enactment event will Mike and Dave be dressing up?

Before we get to carried away and start to plan something are we lilely to get an invite?

[sapper]

How about 28mm 18th Century ? - plenty of spectacle, plenty of colour ... and plenty of figures kicking around the club

[Mark Wightman]

Aug 21, 2008 9:38:42 GMT mike said:

What, no interest in Kadesh

It's one of the most important battles in history
It defined, once and for all, the northern extent of the Egyptian Empire and led to the first international peace treaty ever recorded

Hmm . . . the peace treaty wasn't signed for another 15 years or so. Although it was the inconclusive result of the battle which I guess could be described as leading to it.

Aug 21, 2008 9:38:42 GMT mike said:

As for the sheer spectacle of the thing
Thousands of chariots pounding each other to a bloody standstill across the deserts of Syria - we're well into Cecil B DeMille territory here

And for gaming potential - I refer to my previous comment regarding the spectacle of it all

What's not to like ;D ;D

It's just chariots chasing each other around. With maybe some infantry looking on (none of the Hittite infantry were engaged). The spectacle will only be achieved by fielding large numbers of chariots -which doesn't sound like too much fun to me.

Aug 21, 2008 9:38:42 GMT mike said:

Now then - Dave's got Egytians, so I wonder where I can pick up some Hittite chariots

Dave's been looking for a mug somebody to do some opposition for his Egyptians - so I'm sure he'll let you know shortly ;D

[Mark Wightman]

Is this the show where the organisers have suggestions of what games they'd like to see?

[daiv]

Hi All

Phoenix Gaming Rushden have been invited again, and I cant see there being a problem with Bedford Joining the frey.

This year it was insisted that we did a Boer War scenario as it as the anniversery, the other games we got to choose. Next year I think its left up to us what we put on, but will ask Carl to look into that see if they have anything specific they want us to do

[dave3]

;D Ah someone else who can see the potential! what with the Grand Manner ancient fortification in the middle, as Kadesh...you'r laughing! Anyhow, I did say we could have a couple of games, as biblical bronze age types not to everyones taste!
Dave

[dave3]

Dave's been looking for a mug somebody to do some opposition for his Egyptians - so I'm sure he'll let you know shortly ;D [/quote]

LOL What are you suggesting mark!! true, the bulk of the Hittite army was across the river(forgot it's name) but we can do a what if, and see if they can total the remnants of the forward Eyptian corps, by finding a crossing point, before the second turns up!
Dave

[carl1]

Hi Guys, in answer to at least one of the questions as far as i'm aware at the moment there is no specific game or period English Heritage want us to put on but that may change once they have the date for next year and know who is attending re-enactor wise. At the moment i think it best if you choose just one scenario to put on as Phoenix already have several planned and Dan from Wargames Illustrated has also expressed an interest in them putting a game on as well. We are thinking of doing 2 smaller tables (4 x 4) one with Wings of war and the other a Napoleonic naval battle. we also now have one confirmed game which will be romans v celts, and other possibles are another ancients game (thermopalye) plus 1 or 2 flames of war tables as this went down extremely well this year. as Steve said i think we could do a fair amount of tables and my thoughts are 5 or 6 large games and a couple of smaller ones but the final decisions will be made during late October / early November, so if you could sort out your idea by the end of september and email it to me (Dave Wilkin has my email ) that would be great. i need an overview of the scenario idea, armies involved etc. Cheers for now.

[carl1]

The only other thing i forgot to mention that entry into last years event was by Phoenix Gaming Club membership card only, and anyone attending the event and running the games must be a Phoenix club member, so once you have decided which scenario you want to put forward please consider that anyone wanting to go to Kelmarsh will have to join Phoenix to get a membership card, currently £6 for the year. Obviously the membership wont need to be taken out until Jan 2009. The added benefit is that your card will get you 10% discount at osbornes in rushden and hopefully a pass so that family members can attend kelmarsh for one of the 2 days for free.

[Mark Wightman]

Carl - I know you mean well, but I find this suggestion outrageous.

[mike]

The question here is:

Have we been invited to Kelmarsh in our own right, or are we creeping in "under the wire" by pretending to be Rushed Phoenix?

If the former, then surely a Gladiaators membership card should also get us free access to the event.

If the latter, maybe we should talk to the event organisers ourselves.