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[adjudicator]

Elle won't be coming, so will be asking one of our old friends to lend us his apoc books, and if B can grab blast markers, we should be half way there. I'm working on Imperial campaign, but without an imperial player, the campaign doesnt have any ground.

[Elle]

I said I probably wouldn't be coming as would rather not sit around watching for nine-ten hours, yet I've said several times I'm happy to lend books/templates anyway. I'd appreciate you not jumping to conclusions without talking to me Adjudicator.

As for your campaign, why not just make a new campaign idea based on what players you do have? It'll also let the peeps from Gladiators have a say in things.

[anonymice]

Agreed with elle, don’t rely on one player for a campaign if that player can’t turn up then it puts everyone out.

If where not using strategic assets like you said... i won’t need the templates, and i remember the set up rules. If it’s just a normal kill game or capture objectives I remember them as well
what else do we need the book for? ill get them anyway as i would like to read though them

[adjudicator]

I like to have templates, books, dice, any official apoc formation sheets needed, blah.. Everything- if you two sincerely believe in preparing for what may or may not happen, then bringing stuff "just-in-case" should really be part of that list too. I have reloaded, I can bring that, no problem. I can also bring dice, and the normal game templates, and hopefully after the holidays, before I get a scorpion, I will be getting the core rule book (I like the pretty pictures), the core apoc book, and the apoc templates so I can bring them when needed.
If we drop a player, there is a chance of doing that defend mission Elizabeth pointed out. I smiled at the idea, and I think B actually was looking forward to such a game. He rarely worries about losing. It will sadden me a little if mike 954 cant make it- I like playing against tyranids. (Stop reading here unless you're bored)

Oh, I'm working on the imperial campaign, but without any imperial players, it doesnt seem likely. As the background and core rules are effectively the game, missions, environmentals and assets are therefore changed for each aspect too. It feels quite intricate and extraordinary, definately one of the more complex games I've been challenged to make. I can only hope it lives up to it's expectations.
Another idea, was we take a new angle on this defend mission I'm thinking of for sunday. The Eldar campaign is basically that, take me and michealanstead with 20k+ (Oh yes, I can smell a REAL army), I can muster between 13k-15k, and with the lynx and scorpion, michealanstead, and I should be able to crack the 25k barrier. The opponents could 'attempt' at mustering 50k, to crack our defenses? This I would imagine would be an all weekend job, and probably outside the boundries and capabilities of gladiators. But I'm full of bad ideas me. Hiring for the saturday before the sunday, and also hiring an industrial coffee maker could be on the cards? (I might be joking)
Before I get enough hate-mail to keep my bin untidy for the next few days, I'll point out that we don't have to have 25k, with the opponent having 50k, we could have smaller. If Elizabeth decided to sit upon her golden throne, and rule as the dominatrix of the board again, I think her and B could probably put together 15k between them. The Eldar with 7.5k, on a defend mission, with bunches of assets (They're defending one of the first worlds theyve set upon in millenia), should prove interesting.

I wish she would come back to us though, with 10k between the two players, me and michealanstead could bring 20k to the table, and spend the first hour just taking pictures of a very beautiful army.

[anonymice]

Michael is the one not coming i think, mike is i hope

[Elle]

You aren't going to use Strategic Assets? I missed that part (which is why I briefly mentioned them to Mike954.
I also missed mention of Michaelanstead not coming, hehe.

I've said before you should start small, get properly used to the rules before going to large battles (you claim I know the rules well Adjudicator but I'm thinking of myself with that statement).
The fact you've dived in at 10k a side is one reason I'm heavily considering not coming Sunday I'll be d**n bored watching as you'll be pressed for time as it is so won't be able to chat much and worse I fear I'll just be used as a rulebook because you've gone OTT with the game.
With the above in consideration, even if I were persuaded to play again, it certainly wouldn't be in anything larger than 6-7.5k a side straight off. *smiles*
On a side-note, as with most special apocalypse missions in books Bloody Last Stand has a recommended points section. It notes 6-10k attacker (obviously with 3-5k defender).

Depending how this one-off game goes Sunday, I may come watch future Apocalypse games as I offered umpire anyway. ^^



P.s. I've sent the mission to Anonymice, if either of you want to grab Templates/Apocalypse book before the game arrange with me via text.

[dave3]

"From" Gladiators...you are members you know! I am playing a big WHECW (that is Warhammer English Civil War) on Sun, but I am sure we can organise something..as I said, there was talk of a campaign involving Wayne from the shop..
Here is a simple idea, make the campaign simple, just linked games. People can declare for Empire, Chaos or Xenos, and score 2 pts a win and 1 pt a draw for each game. Also there was talk of "Awsome points". maybe the club could get that hexagon campaign thingy that GW does, or better and cheaper, draw it!

[dave3]

Another idea, was we take a new angle on this defend mission I'm thinking of for sunday. The Eldar campaign is basically that, take me and michealanstead with 20k+ (Oh yes, I can smell a REAL army), I can muster between 13k-15k, and with the lynx and scorpion, michealanstead, and I should be able to crack the 25k barrier. The opponents could 'attempt' at mustering 50k, to crack our defenses? This I would imagine would be an all weekend job, and probably outside the boundries and capabilities of gladiators. But I'm full of bad ideas me. Hiring for the saturday before the sunday, and also hiring an industrial coffee maker could be on the cards? (I might be joking)


Hiring the hall for Saturday and Sunday is not impossable, just very expensive. You are talking another £100 to do a Saturday as well as a Sunday. We have very rarely done this, and that was for the club 35th anniversary. That said, if people were willing to put a reasonable sum to offset the cost to the club (remember this will only benefit a fraction, not everyone) then it can be done. We can even organise a buffet

[Elle]

We are members yes *smiles* But the ideas Adjudicator keeps mentioning were ones him, myself & Anonymice had planned previously anyway so we're already involved.
Adjudicator has a habit of making decisions by himself when he gets carried away with his long posts (e.g. him making decisions why Blood Angels & Tyranids would team up, instead of letting the players decide), so the comment was mainly aimed at him to give you some involvement.
You're right tho, I should probably have said "The other Gladiator peeps". ^^

I'm glad you at least got my idea with suggesting a new campaign style ^^ I've always been a fan of Narrative campaigns over points or map games, but I'm not playing currently (focusing more on getting backlog of stuff painted) *laughs*

[adjudicator]

Oi! They were plausable ideas, not definitives. A hundred is quite steep, in comparison to the £20 I thought it would have cost. What I think we may end up doing is setting up boards and scenery, and seeing who turns up. This sunday coming is just a little bash, shaking hands, saying hi. It's not campaign based, or anything, hell, I've not even got on to the second page of the campaign yet!
I'm mainly hoping to have some different players on the board, I don't really want to play a game just me vs. B, kind of defeats the whole idea of coming to Gladiators, just the two of us, we could have it at mine.

Although I have a 13-15k army, I'm not comfortable fielding an army larger than 5k right now. (If we ever did larger, it would be when I feel better aquainted with the rules). I wouldn't have enough time to take my turn, even with 40 mins. I like to talk, prat about, and have fun. As we'll have a lot less on the board, we could have strategic assets, I won't mind. I would like to go over that Eldar psychic beacon idea though, I cant remember the rules at all, only that it was the holy Grail for Eldar psykers. Sounds like If B and tyranids have 5k each, I'm on the defend side of it. Best of luck taking on my seer council. I'm actually giving them a lick of paint so theyre table ready.

I liked the idea of increasing Eldrad's toughness, kind of cheating by putting him in a wraithguard unit. But the combat and psychic capabilities, plus all of them having invulnerable saves makes the seer council a winner. I got a couple of tricks up my sleeve though. Like B said to me before, I don't play different armies, I just field different troops.

[michaelanstead]

Hi all, sorry I have not been on for a few days. I have my own game tomorrow so I cannot join in. I was hoping to have something organised for the July all day sunday.

With gaming in mind, I have started a new thread for monday if anyone wants to check it out.

Michael

[anonymice]

yup sounds good... july 17th is the sunday then.. how about we plan something for then?

[michaelanstead]

Perfect. My lynx has not arrived in time for tomorrow but will definately be for July :-D